yeah wow gettin real tired of your shit doctor who
well like in all honesty i think people should remember that just because matt smith says it doesn’t mean it’s canon.
he likes the idea of his character being the smartest, it’s not necessarily a realistic statement of authorial intent
but what matt is saying here isn’t “clara isn’t clever”, what he’s saying is “the doctor is cleverer than her (which, sorry, but he’s a millenia old alien, he’d better be at this point), but he likes to make her feel like she’s the one cleverer than him” or even “the doctor thinks he’s cleverer than her (which is definitely true, i mean, look at that boastful arse), but he somehow sees worth in indulging the idea that clara is cleverer than him”. i mean, him being in any way patronising towards her isn’t sexism, if anything its ageism or speciesism which is a thing he has been showing all his companions for ages, you know, going “oh you humans just don’t understand this” or “i’ve been doing shit like this for several thousand years and therefore i know better”. so yeah, he allows her to think she knows better than him. maybe he likes how it makes her happy to think that she gives the orders and makes the plans. maybe he thinks it’s the appropriate thing to do. maybe he tries not to look like a smartass all the time. who knows? either way: gettin real tired of your shit moffat haters.
Exactly. And Clara can be smarter than him sometimes. She can see things from a different perspective and catch things he misses. It’s like Rose seeing the ferris wheel or Donna figuring out that the number plates are dates.
He did the same thing with Ace especially— he let her figure out what was going on herself, rather than just telling her. He taught her to investigate. That was a big part of his relationship with Rose and Martha, too.
The alternative is something like a teacher who belittles a 7-year-old for not knowing college-level organic chemistry, instead of praising them for learning at their own level.
He’s about 50 times her age.
I’ve avoided reading those fics, because my gut feeling is that the only way I could be into it would be if it’s so UA Ten never existed, and Nine, for some reason, had a handy spare limb in the console room since after his regeneration.
I’ve gotten this as a prompt a few times and I’ve gotten so far that I’ve come up with a reason as to how Ninetoo could be created in the first place (since it’s impossible), but whenever I think about how this scenario, where Rose has to basically choose between Nine and Ten, would play out it makes me incredibly uncomfortable. It would be a lot more complicated than just choosing between a God and a mortal, so to speak, and I think Rose would feel horrible, no matter what she chose. I would hate to put her in a situation. Choosing between Ten and Tentoo is unfair as it is.
I want to make it clear that I’m not against this kind of fic. I absolutely understand the need to explore a part human Nine in this scenario, and the need to read it, it’s just not for me.
matt smith dedicatedly whittling away at the affection i have for him
ughhhhh I actually think this is another good reason why eleven is the fucking worst.
ok fine the doctor knows more stuff than [companion] and that’s generally pretty understandable, but so does goddamn wikipedia and i’m not watching a show about that. what makes any character actually intelligent is how they use what they do know. You’ve got Rose thinking ‘holy shit that’s a lot of tv aerials’, Martha thinking ‘lightning strike + metal pipes = bacon’, or Donna running off to investigate empty folders of sick days. You’ve got countless people of the week making connections and saving planets: Cathica heating up the jagrafess, Mrs Moore electromagnet bombing the cyberman, Harriet Jones running a secret computer communications network from her flipping living room.
Nine and Ten were geniuses and proud of it, but they were equally as thrilled when their friends (or like, random people they met that day) are intelligent. They didn’t pretend someone else was clever to make them feel better or shut them up, they celebrated the intelligent of everyone they were with.
Whereas Eleven rarely gives anyone else room to be clever, apart from, apparently, when he’s pretending.
My mom wont let me cosplay the doctor guys this is some serious shit
Oh my god the notes thank you guys so much this means a lot to me like you dont even understand
She said it wasnt right to wear a mens costume
wow your mom needs to seriously back the hell up and really ask herself if shoving her opinions of what she thinks if right or wrong down the throats of other human beings is really how she wants to live her life.
or better yet, just ask her why she thinks it’s wrong. ask her what is FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG about it, because NO ONE can answer that because THERE ISN’T ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT.
it will always be excuses to control, shame, or project someone elses’ opinion on you
"Because you’re a girl/female/not a man" = "I’m uncomfortable with your choice to wear them so I will shame you to discourage you because of your sex and imply that you must follow societal expectations for acceptable clothing so I don’t have to see it."
"because do you ever see people walking down the street doing that?" = "I’m uncomfortable with your choice to wear them so I will shame you so I don’t have to see it."
"because i said so" = "I’m uncomfortable with your choice to wear them so I will control you so I don’t have to see it."
"because i won’t let you" = "I’m uncomfortable with your choice to wear them so I will control you so I don’t have to see it."
"because you won’t look attractive/like a woman" = "I’M THE ONE THAT THINKS YOU WON’T BECAUSE I’M PROJECTING MY FEELINGS OF HOW I WOULD FEEL IF I DRESSED UP IN MEN’S CLOTHING”
"because your father would be furious" = “I feel uncomfortable with letting you wear men’s clothes but don’t have a real reason to prevent you from doing it, so I’ll push the responsibility of taking the blame to your father who is man so that should clear it up for you because if a man wouldn’t approve then why wear men’s clothes.”
You can wear whatever you want, and don’t you forget it.
From the David Tennant Video Diaries series 3. He’s peeling fake frost off his face from the episode 42. I made this mostly because..you know…shirtless.
yeah wow gettin real tired of your shit doctor who
The more I read and here about Matt Smith the more he creeps me out, you know he just seems to have huge problem with boundaries and sexism.
Let me just set this straight, (mainly for everyone who is now reblogging this suddenly) I am not commenting on Matt Smith’s statement, but rather how this is basically how the show has been.
Is it curious that his statement, whether teasing or not, lines up with the state of the show and how we’ve seen Clara treated like an infant (actually I’ve seen children treated with more respect and acknowledgment, because why shouldn’t/wouldn’t they be)? Yes, it is.
I don’t personally have an opinion of Matt Smith’s views on Clara’s role or that of women in Doctor Who. I just found it sadly ironic that what he said, even if it was likely a joke, in reality IT IS THE SHOW AS WE’VE SEEN IT REGARDLESS.
Hey, I’m back. Yes, I know I never did a Mooning of “The Day of the Doctor” 50th Anniversary special, but honestly, A) I was busy with other stuff at the time, and B) There were only a couple of major things that bothered me about it, but I didn’t feel like there was enough to snark to carry anâ¦
EXCELLENT review! EXCELLENT!
"They enter the cathedral, where the Doctor discovers the plot hole from Series 5. The plot hole was so terrifying, it was apparently what was in the Doctor’s room in "The God Complex" (because, I mean, when your initial reaction is "Who else would it be?", that’s a logical thing to say about an inanimate phenomenon and this is totally what it was originally going for).
Except the plot hole, which was originally a gateway to the Atraxi prison, and then a hole in the universe that nommed things out of existence, is now a fissure to the alternate universe where the other Time Lords are trapped and they’re trying to break back through. And in order to break through, they’re broadcasting a question.
Gee, I wonder what that question is.
Once Moffat gets through his weekly “repeat something incessantly” bug, the Doctor explains that the Time Lords are spamming the series title all over the universe so that if the Doctor answers they’ll know it’s safe to come through the plot hole, and put the truth field in place so that he couldn’t answer it with “Keith” or something. No one ever said the Time Lords were the smartest bunch.
The Doctor laments that he can’t let the Time Lords back through because all of the monsters in the universe are hanging out overhead itching to kill something for no real reason. Because the Gallifrey on the other side of the plot hole is Eleven’s Gallifrey, which is populated entirely by 2 billion innocent women and children dancing around maypoles, rather than Ten’s Gallifrey, which was populated entirely by bureaucrats who all aside from two of them were in favor of destroying the universe and that’s why he banished them in the first place.”
"Meanwhile, Tasha warns the Doctor that she will not allow the Doctor to let the Time Lords back through because even though the Time Lords are totally all sweet little maypole-swinging pacifists, the rest of the universe is big meanies and will blow them all up because reasons. The Doctor protests and declares that he will protect them. Tasha, on the other hand, vows that her church will keep him silent and never speak his name to allow the Time Lords back through.
And thus, we proceed into Moffat’s favorite thing: Tell, don’t show! At least it’s done to “Final Days” from “End of Time”. But in a few lines of narration, he skips over 300 years of time in which the Doctor has many encounters, makes new friends, develops new skills, changes his outlook on life, and comes to a new place in his existence. In most other works, this would be called the “story”, but in a Moffat episode, eh, we only care about the end result and can skip right to it in the course of a minute or so. It’s all about the destination and not the journey, amirite? The important thing is to tell us he is oh so loved by all of the little children which is necessary to set up the proper amount of sadness for the tragic ending. Am I doing it right?”
"Although, in Moffat’s defense, he does become surprisingly self-aware in the Doctor’s line that his plan is, "Talk really fast, hope something good happens, take the credit." Because that has, literally, been Moffat’s Doctor: a man with no actual agency, but instead rides on the actions of his predecessors and the happenstance of his current conditions. Moffat has been afraid to make his characters actually DO anything because DOING something means you have actions which you can be held responsible for. Most of his Doctor’s actions have been about UNDOing things that he was previously beholden to. Undoing the Time War. Removing himself from history. Rebooting the universe. Big friendly buttons that erase all the mistakes you made by making it so you never did anything in the first place. Because his Doctor’s greatest achievement has been living a life of zero consequences."
yeah wow gettin real tired of your shit doctor who
I don’t get why this is bad.
It’s parent’s thing - “I know how to do it, but I let her try because I believe in my child and I know she\he can do it”.
Doctor is showing Clara that she is better than she thinks this way.
I have no context other than this post, but let’s break just this quote down:
The Doctor is, in reality, more clever than Clara.
But he allows her the fantasy that actually she’s the clever one.
Nowhere does he say “He helps Clara see that she’s really clever.” No, he allows her to think she’s clever.
Allow. (Meaning, this fantasy is his to give her or take away from her.)
Think. (As in, it’s not true, it’s an illusion she thinks is true.)
You don’t say “She thinks she’s clever” of someone you actually believe truly is clever. You say it of someone you believe isn’t particularly clever but that you feel has an unrealistically inflated sense of themselves. Giving a kid the opportunity to stretch themselves and realize their ability isn’t something of which you’d say “Oh, I let him think he’s smart, but really I’m the smart one.”
And because of the genders here there is also an implication that the Doctor allowing Clara to think she has an upper hand (even though in reality she does not) is super duper smart and awesome because women always like to be right, because, you know, women. Your choices with them are to let them win or argue with them because they’re just so difficult. Am I right, fellas? (Like seriously, “I allow my wife/girlfriend to think she’s right all the time so I can get some peace” is a total dude cliche and it’s supposed to elicit a lot of back-slapping about how smart it is to just let women have their way so they’ll stop bloody nagging you all the time.)
…Is Matt Smith being corrupted by Moffat? This is the only answer I will accept
I hope this is the kind of thing you guys would post, but I’ve been thinking about the portrayals of fans in-universe. With regards to Moffat, obviously, but in this case comparing his treatment to Russell T Davis’.
During a recent re-watch of some RTD Doctor Who, I saw Love and Monsters through a new perspective. It was never a favourite of mine at the time, but now I kind of enjoyed it. There’s a refreshingly different portrayal of in-universe fans compared to Moffat’s recent offerings. I will specifically look at his use of ‘fan theories’ in The Empty Hearse.
Love and Monsters presents us with LINDA (London Investigation ‘N’ Detective Agency), which is, to all intents and purposes, a Doctor Who fan club presented in-universe. They are brought together by a mutual interest in the Doctor and his general mysteriousness. It’s a bit of a rag-tag group, but over time they become closer friends, expand their interests and become just really happy together. Having grown up in the 90s with Doctor Who fan clubs very much like this – I do know of some who literally did meet in a basement somewhere to watch old episodes – there is a clear parallel being drawn.
What strikes me about this episode is that the group, their love of the subject, their enthusiasm for it, is never treated as a source of ridicule. It’s a bit silly, and they seem aware of that, but carry on anyway because they enjoy it. Their friendships are taken seriously, their losses are taken seriously, and everything about their group is treated as perfectly acceptable and indeed admirable.
Where it goes wrong, in the story, is when Victor Kennedy / The Abzorbaloff turns up and decides that their group needs to be more active in their stalking of the Doctor. The tone of the episode goes down, the music becomes more intimidating, and we really get the sense that this is not going to end well. They’re being asked to stalk people, to go to their homes, to dig through their personal belongings and generally be a bit creepy and obsessive beyond reasonable levels.
The main character, Elton, realises this and rebels against the creepiness of it all. He had a nice group of friends who have been torn apart, they’re no longer having fun, people have gone missing and he lost an opportunity to make friends with Jackie Tyler because of the creepiness of his ‘mission’.
When Elton finally meets the Doctor, he is a bit upset about the group’s activities, but ultimately he comforts him and consoles him about the death of his mother. The Doctor disapproved of the Abzorbaloff’s perversion of their group, it seems, but does not outwardly show any hostility towards Elton and the others’ other activities. He then restores Ursula’s essence – the most he can do – and hopes that is enough.
Perhaps you can criticise RTD of being over-reverent and fawning of fans, here. But to me it comes across as very loving and almost nostalgic. And Ursula’s fate is somewhat sketchy and problematic.
Now, let’s look at how Moffat treats ‘fans’ in-universe. Because it is, as far as I can tell, vastly different to how RTD treated them. Even in the mini-episode, Time Crash, where the Fifth Doctor meets the Tenth (spoilers!), we have a throw away line that represents a very different attitude.
DOCTOR 5: Oh. Oh, no.
DOCTOR 10: Oh yes.
DOCTOR 5: You’re. Oh, no.
DOCTOR 10: Here it comes. Yeah, I am.
DOCTOR 5: A fan.
DOCTOR: 10 Yeah. What?
DOCTOR 5: This is bad. Two minutes to Belgium.
DOCTOR 10: What do you mean, a fan? I’m not just a fan, I’m you.
DOCTOR 5: Okay, you’re my biggest fan. Look, its perfectly understandable. I go zooming around space and time, saving planets, fighting monsters and being well, let’s be honest, pretty sort of marvellous, so naturally now and then people notice me. Start up their little groups. That LINDA lot. Are you one of them? How did you get in here? Can’t have you lot knowing where I live.
In this short exchange we have a more negative attitude towards the fans. ‘That LINDA lot’. He thinks it’s a bad thing that someone would be a fan – while at the same time saying how marvellous he is.
While I’m sure there are other instances of fandom dismissal and ridicule, I’d like to focus on one from Sherlock. In The Empty Hearse we have Anderson’s group (The Empty Hearse), who are presented as almost entirely negative. Anderson himself is portrayed as borderline unstable, laughing and giggling as he tears his room apart. His fellow members don’t have any lines, other than a single, unnamed woman who presents a theory of Sherlock and Moriarty working together on the death-fake-fiasco. Her theory is dismissed and Anderson is presented as unlikable, and ultimately unworthy of Sherlock, who – it appears, though it could have been a hallucination – gives him an explanation, grudgingly and with an air of dismissivness.
Perhaps I am reading into this too much, but I have always found Moffat’s attitude towards the fandom a little bit troubling. When referencing the War-Doctor he said “The numbering system is just for you fans who make your little lists”. Although he claims to have his own lists, he does it in a self-deprecating manner. As if being an enthusiastic fan that cares about continuity and consistency is something a bit weird. Something to be ashamed of.
RTD wasn’t without his flaws, obviously, but I find this treatment of the fandom in-universe much more friendly and loving. While Moffat seems to be, in some sense, laughing at the very people who support his shows. Love and Monsters seems to say, “Aren’t fan clubs fun!!” while The Empty Hearse seems to say, “Aren’t fan clubs weird, haha, look at the weirdos!”
Then there is Osgood in the 50th Anniversary. She is presented in a somewhat stereotypical way - asthmatic, sporting the scarf wherever she goes, wearing thick glasses, and it is suggested that she has some deep seated jealousy of a ‘more attractive sister’. I am reminded somewhat of the 7th Doctor Story, The Greatest Show in the Galaxy, which has a very stereotypical ‘nerd’ character presented as an obsessive who collects ALL THE THINGS about the psychic circus. Interestingly, the Doctor never chastises or berates him. Still, the portrayal is somewhat upsetting and in the DVD extras we get a sense that the producers were wanting to get away from the idea that all Doctor Who viewers were these nerdy-kids in glasses with pocket protectors. There was this over-reaction of ‘no, we’re not like that! See, we’ll make fun of those people!’ in a desperate attempt to not be associated with that image.
I get something of that impression from the way Moffat treats the fans and the show. He has turned the Doctor into a ‘laddish bloke’ who fancies all the girls and doesn’t care about personal boundaries and would probably drink larger down the pub while having a dick-measuring contest.
I shall end this with a somewhat encouraging quote from Mr Twelve, Peter Capaldi, and his more positive outlook on fans and fandom…
“…[the reason] that Doctor Who is still with us, the big reason is every single viewer who switched on to this show, at any age, at any time in its history and took it into their heart. Doctor Who belongs to all of us. Everyone makes Doctor Who.”